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		<title>Comment on [Blowback for $1K] State of the project by Fred Hicks</title>
		<link>http://blowback.twoscooterspress.com/2010/03/blowback-for-1k-state-of-the-project/comment-page-1/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking as a publisher who has worked with Ryan in an editorial or semi-editorial role on Don&#039;t Lose Your Mind, A Penny For My Thoughts, The Dresden Files RPG, and other stuff I may be forgetting, I can firmly assert the man is a good investment. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a publisher who has worked with Ryan in an editorial or semi-editorial role on Don&#8217;t Lose Your Mind, A Penny For My Thoughts, The Dresden Files RPG, and other stuff I may be forgetting, I can firmly assert the man is a good investment. <img src='http://twoscooterspress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on New character sheet: just in time for JiffyCon by Marc Majcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Majcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 22:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That looks awesome.</description>
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		<title>Comment on New character sheet: just in time for JiffyCon by Rob Donoghue</title>
		<link>http://blowback.twoscooterspress.com/2009/11/new-character-sheet-just-in-time-for-jiffycon/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Donoghue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Known Associates&quot; is made entirely of win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Known Associates&#8221; is made entirely of win.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Blowback for $1K] Printer roundup by Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://blowback.twoscooterspress.com/2009/11/blowback-for-1k-printer-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad: Sure, I&#039;d be happy to.

It&#039;s Complicated was my first game. I printed through Guild of Blades. It cost me $2.10 a book for a 40-page partial-color saddle-stitched book. I sold copies for $16. My profit was $13.90 a book. Put another way: one preorder paid for a little over seven copies of my book. I paid for my entire print run with pre-orders. 

I looked into doing that book on Lulu. There&#039;s no such thing as partial color to Lulu: everything&#039;s either printed color or printed black and white. It would have cost $11.50 a book, reducing my profit to $4.50 a book. There was no reason on God&#039;s green earth to flush that $9.40 (nearly $1000 total for the whole print run) down the drain.

Lulu is surprisingly competitive right now, but it&#039;s still not the &lt;em&gt;most&lt;/em&gt; competitive option. I&#039;m okay with setting half my budget aside for a print run, because that will earn me more profit in the long run. As I mentioned, the individual cost per book (without printing ANY in advance, as you say-- that means no bulk discount) is $14.50 a book. In comparison to the $6.75 of my lowest quote, or even the $11.28 of the most highly-recommended printing house, that&#039;s still leaving hundreds of dollars of profit on the table. I &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; that I am in a place where I can sell 100 books in a reasonable amount of time. I&#039;ve got a marketing plan and I&#039;m willing to play the crap out of my game until people see how awesome it is. I brought It&#039;s Complicated to GenCon almost by accident, and sold out of my print run there. 

I guess it is just a numbers thing. 100 isn&#039;t a lot of books, but 300-500 is a lot of bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad: Sure, I&#8217;d be happy to.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Complicated was my first game. I printed through Guild of Blades. It cost me $2.10 a book for a 40-page partial-color saddle-stitched book. I sold copies for $16. My profit was $13.90 a book. Put another way: one preorder paid for a little over seven copies of my book. I paid for my entire print run with pre-orders. </p>
<p>I looked into doing that book on Lulu. There&#8217;s no such thing as partial color to Lulu: everything&#8217;s either printed color or printed black and white. It would have cost $11.50 a book, reducing my profit to $4.50 a book. There was no reason on God&#8217;s green earth to flush that $9.40 (nearly $1000 total for the whole print run) down the drain.</p>
<p>Lulu is surprisingly competitive right now, but it&#8217;s still not the <em>most</em> competitive option. I&#8217;m okay with setting half my budget aside for a print run, because that will earn me more profit in the long run. As I mentioned, the individual cost per book (without printing ANY in advance, as you say&#8211; that means no bulk discount) is $14.50 a book. In comparison to the $6.75 of my lowest quote, or even the $11.28 of the most highly-recommended printing house, that&#8217;s still leaving hundreds of dollars of profit on the table. I <em>know</em> that I am in a place where I can sell 100 books in a reasonable amount of time. I&#8217;ve got a marketing plan and I&#8217;m willing to play the crap out of my game until people see how awesome it is. I brought It&#8217;s Complicated to GenCon almost by accident, and sold out of my print run there. </p>
<p>I guess it is just a numbers thing. 100 isn&#8217;t a lot of books, but 300-500 is a lot of bucks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Blowback for $1K] Printer roundup by Brad J. Murray</title>
		<link>http://blowback.twoscooterspress.com/2009/11/blowback-for-1k-printer-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad J. Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth, can you talk a little about the choice to pre-print in the first place? I haven&#039;t heard a compelling reason for it so far (at least not backed up by numbers) and given Lulu&#039;s low-ball figure it seems like you could do pure POD (as in, literally, print on demand -- the customer&#039;s demand) through them and get your cover price down by not sharing with any other middle-men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth, can you talk a little about the choice to pre-print in the first place? I haven&#8217;t heard a compelling reason for it so far (at least not backed up by numbers) and given Lulu&#8217;s low-ball figure it seems like you could do pure POD (as in, literally, print on demand &#8212; the customer&#8217;s demand) through them and get your cover price down by not sharing with any other middle-men.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Blowback for $1K] Printer roundup by Elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Fred:&lt;/strong&gt; Yeah, I know, I&#039;m crazy for doing a full-color book. I might do a black and white book at some point, but it&#039;d require completely redoing the layout. I&#039;ve envisioned Blowback as a full-color book since the moment it lept into my mind, and since it&#039;s a labor of love, that&#039;s the version I want to concentrate on for the time being. The profit margin isn&#039;t going to be as strong as it is for MRG, but I&#039;ll make sure it&#039;s one I&#039;m comfortable with. 

I&#039;ll talk to my Lightning Source rep about this, thanks Paul/Fred. I went through the rigamarole of signing up with them just so that I could get my eyes on their price list a while back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Fred:</strong> Yeah, I know, I&#8217;m crazy for doing a full-color book. I might do a black and white book at some point, but it&#8217;d require completely redoing the layout. I&#8217;ve envisioned Blowback as a full-color book since the moment it lept into my mind, and since it&#8217;s a labor of love, that&#8217;s the version I want to concentrate on for the time being. The profit margin isn&#8217;t going to be as strong as it is for MRG, but I&#8217;ll make sure it&#8217;s one I&#8217;m comfortable with. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll talk to my Lightning Source rep about this, thanks Paul/Fred. I went through the rigamarole of signing up with them just so that I could get my eyes on their price list a while back.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Blowback for $1K] Printer roundup by Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://blowback.twoscooterspress.com/2009/11/blowback-for-1k-printer-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ed:&lt;/strong&gt; Here&#039;s the thing about Guild of Blades. I&#039;ve used and liked them in the past (although their cover printing does rub off, unfortunately, and I ended up with a few smudged covers), but for this project I chose not to consider them. Here&#039;s why.

They did such an awesome job for me, customer-service-wise, that I recommended them to a friend who had a perfect-bound, full-color landscape book. His print run showed up, mangled, halfway through GenCon. They did a great job with IC, minus the smudges, but considering how close in spec my game is to the game I saw completely messed up? I just can&#039;t afford to risk it.

Awesome to know about 360, though. I&#039;d probably still order a proof, just to be sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ed:</strong> Here&#8217;s the thing about Guild of Blades. I&#8217;ve used and liked them in the past (although their cover printing does rub off, unfortunately, and I ended up with a few smudged covers), but for this project I chose not to consider them. Here&#8217;s why.</p>
<p>They did such an awesome job for me, customer-service-wise, that I recommended them to a friend who had a perfect-bound, full-color landscape book. His print run showed up, mangled, halfway through GenCon. They did a great job with IC, minus the smudges, but considering how close in spec my game is to the game I saw completely messed up? I just can&#8217;t afford to risk it.</p>
<p>Awesome to know about 360, though. I&#8217;d probably still order a proof, just to be sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Blowback for $1K] Printer roundup by Fred Hicks</title>
		<link>http://blowback.twoscooterspress.com/2009/11/blowback-for-1k-printer-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Hicks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha, whups! Misread, thought you were talking 9x7, but you were talking 10x8.  My Lightning Source breakdown still stands, tho, since that&#039;s a really rare trim size you&#039;re going for.

Part of the reason comes from understanding what a lot of POD hardware prints on: those big 11&quot; tall, 17&quot; wide tabloids.  So 8x10 fits on there just fine, since two pages side by side are 16&quot; wide, 10&quot; tall.  10x8 as your format means you&#039;re going for a 20&quot; wide side-by-side thing, which requires paper sizes in excess of that 17&quot; wide limitation.  With this as a factor (assuming I&#039;m at all right -- see below) you&#039;ll find that most places limit their printings to 8-8.5&quot; wide per page.

This knowledge is something I picked up quite some time ago, so it may be outdated -- after all, Lulu&#039;s 9&quot;x7&quot; format is 1&quot; wider than I&#039;m anticipating, so I may have the dimensions wrong anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha, whups! Misread, thought you were talking 9&#215;7, but you were talking 10&#215;8.  My Lightning Source breakdown still stands, tho, since that&#8217;s a really rare trim size you&#8217;re going for.</p>
<p>Part of the reason comes from understanding what a lot of POD hardware prints on: those big 11&#8243; tall, 17&#8243; wide tabloids.  So 8&#215;10 fits on there just fine, since two pages side by side are 16&#8243; wide, 10&#8243; tall.  10&#215;8 as your format means you&#8217;re going for a 20&#8243; wide side-by-side thing, which requires paper sizes in excess of that 17&#8243; wide limitation.  With this as a factor (assuming I&#8217;m at all right &#8212; see below) you&#8217;ll find that most places limit their printings to 8-8.5&#8243; wide per page.</p>
<p>This knowledge is something I picked up quite some time ago, so it may be outdated &#8212; after all, Lulu&#8217;s 9&#8243;x7&#8243; format is 1&#8243; wider than I&#8217;m anticipating, so I may have the dimensions wrong anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Blowback for $1K] Printer roundup by Ed Wedig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Wedig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, have you checked out Guild of Blades for their pod pricing? http://createpodbooks.com

Not sure if they do 8x10 landscape, but you could contact them and ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, have you checked out Guild of Blades for their pod pricing? <a href="http://createpodbooks.com" rel="nofollow">http://createpodbooks.com</a></p>
<p>Not sure if they do 8&#215;10 landscape, but you could contact them and ask.</p>
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		<title>Comment on [Blowback for $1K] Printer roundup by Ed Wedig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Wedig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the layout for a book that was printed at 360digitalbooks. Unfortunately, the book was laid out to be printed in color, but the publisher decided to print it in black&amp;white after I had delivered final files, and the results were not pretty. All of the nice color photos came out dark and muddy.

On the other hand, the color cover came out pretty nice, with snappy colors, and they even managed to keep the red leather texture looking realistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the layout for a book that was printed at 360digitalbooks. Unfortunately, the book was laid out to be printed in color, but the publisher decided to print it in black&amp;white after I had delivered final files, and the results were not pretty. All of the nice color photos came out dark and muddy.</p>
<p>On the other hand, the color cover came out pretty nice, with snappy colors, and they even managed to keep the red leather texture looking realistic.</p>
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